Comments on: We ARE Drowning in Information, but STARVED for knowledge. http://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/ Knowledge is an ocean and a few drops just aren't enough. -Unknown Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:54:49 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Yaser http://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-247 Yaser Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:58:37 +0000 https://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-247 Sometimes I wonder if they just say their Muslim so they can cause more mayhem. She needs the label to have her voice heard. If she was an atheist...nobody would care. Sometimes I wonder if they just say their Muslim so they can cause more mayhem. She needs the label to have her voice heard. If she was an atheist…nobody would care.

]]> By: Munzareen Padela http://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-234 Munzareen Padela Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:21:10 +0000 https://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-234 She does. She has problems with every religion. It's slightly irritating. Let them believe what they believe. If they don't believe in homosexuality, you can't force them to. I understand that homosexuals have a hard time integrating into society. But you can't reform a religion. You can make progress in society, but attacking the religion doesn't help. She does. She has problems with every religion. It’s slightly irritating. Let them believe what they believe. If they don’t believe in homosexuality, you can’t force them to.

I understand that homosexuals have a hard time integrating into society. But you can’t reform a religion. You can make progress in society, but attacking the religion doesn’t help.

]]> By: Geeta http://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-233 Geeta Thu, 24 Aug 2006 18:09:28 +0000 https://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-233 Irshad Manji pisses me off. I assume she must have problems with Judaism and Christianity as well, since they comdemn homosexuality. She was raised in a culturally influenced household--not a proper Islamic household--which explains her anger. Apparently the examples(ayahs, hadith etc) she gives in her book are ambiguous, misinterpreted and unreliable. Oh ignorance... it drives me up the wall. Irshad Manji pisses me off. I assume she must have problems with Judaism and Christianity as well, since they comdemn homosexuality. She was raised in a culturally influenced household–not a proper Islamic household–which explains her anger. Apparently the examples(ayahs, hadith etc) she gives in her book are ambiguous, misinterpreted and unreliable.

Oh ignorance… it drives me up the wall.

]]> By: Hammad Din http://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-232 Hammad Din Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:20:41 +0000 https://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-232 Mashah allah I like the "rant".( for the lack of a better word :)). I recall Sh Hazma saying that we should treat everything we see and write critcally as a chain of transmission ( Sahih and so on). So for example who wrote/said this, whats her/his credibility, where were they educated, what are his/her sources...etc etc. ALso if you take a Crtical thinking course you will learn that people can twist opinions to make them look like facts without any facts to back their opinion up. In other words its the way they say things that implictly assumes things or force us to assume things. I have a few friends who argue a lot and I bug them saying that you guys have " weak facts and strong opinons". I think we should have strong facts and flexible opinions. Thanks for the post :) Mashah allah I like the “rant”.( for the lack of a better word :) ).

I recall Sh Hazma saying that we should treat everything we see and write critcally as a chain of transmission ( Sahih and so on). So for example who wrote/said this, whats her/his credibility, where were they educated, what are his/her sources…etc etc.

ALso if you take a Crtical thinking course you will learn that people can twist opinions to make them look like facts without any facts to back their opinion up. In other words its the way they say things that implictly assumes things or force us to assume things.

I have a few friends who argue a lot and I bug them saying that you guys have ” weak facts and strong opinons”. I think we should have strong facts and flexible opinions.

Thanks for the post :)

]]> By: Lena http://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-227 Lena Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:17:49 +0000 https://musaafir.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/we-are-drowning-in-information-but-starved-for-knowledge/#comment-227 I couldn't agree with this more. When I read it, I automatically associated the feeling with Islamic knowledge. I feel we are surrounded by so many translated books and summaries of books, but we still lack so much knowledge...so much really is lost in translation. And also, as it is, Qur'an is knowledge, so yes, we have information, maybe the translations of the verses, but do we have the knowledge behind them...the true wisdom in these verses and the miracles behind them. So as you said, we have this information, but we are starving for knowledge. Muslims trying to change/reform Islam...a whole other topic...as you have expressed to me many times, how annoying the term "Moderate Muslim" is. Anything wrong I have said is from me (may He forgive me), and anything correct and true is only from Allah swt. May Allah increase us in knowledge. Ameen. I couldn’t agree with this more. When I read it, I automatically associated the feeling with Islamic knowledge. I feel we are surrounded by so many translated books and summaries of books, but we still lack so much knowledge…so much really is lost in translation. And also, as it is, Qur’an is knowledge, so yes, we have information, maybe the translations of the verses, but do we have the knowledge behind them…the true wisdom in these verses and the miracles behind them. So as you said, we have this information, but we are starving for knowledge.

Muslims trying to change/reform Islam…a whole other topic…as you have expressed to me many times, how annoying the term “Moderate Muslim” is.

Anything wrong I have said is from me (may He forgive me), and anything correct and true is only from Allah swt.

May Allah increase us in knowledge. Ameen.

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